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Dáil Éireann debate -
Wednesday, 19 Nov 2025

Vol. 1075 No. 6

Saincheisteanna Tráthúla - Topical Issue Debate

Housing Provision

I am a little disappointed that the senior Minister for housing is not here to answer on this very important issue. The Ringfort development in Rathmolyon, County Meath, has been plagued by mismanagement, delay tactics and questionable dealings that have left five families locked out of their homes for more than five years. It has been more than five years since couples put a booking deposit down on a home in the development. They signed contracts on homes that were being built and, instead of being in their new homes, they spent the past five years trapped in limbo, paying rent, storing furniture and living with a constant sense of uncertainty and frustration. They paid their initial €5,000 deposit in October 2020, followed by a balance of €24,500 in early 2021. One couple signed their contract in July 2021 and were told to expect completion within 18 months, by the end of 2022. That never happened. What began as small delays soon spiralled into a nightmare for these buyers. In early 2023, they were told by the developer that each buyer would need to pay an additional €60,000 to make the project viable. It was extortion. In May 2024, it was agreed to pay an additional €26,000 each to help move things along. A letter confirming this agreement was sent to solicitors. It was not subject to contract; it was open correspondence. The homebuyers accepted and signed, believing the end was near. By late 2024, every house on the site was structurally complete. The utilities were connected. All that remained were the final road surfacing and landscaping works. Now in 2025, a liquidator has been appointed, plunging everything back into chaos. The homebuyers face the prospect of losing the homes they paid deposits and signed contracts for. The financial stress and emotional toll has been immense on the five homebuyers who did not pull out of their contracts. They have spent thousands of euro in rent since 2020, not to mention storage cost and lost savings. One family from the group was evicted from their rental home earlier this year and is now living in a single bedroom with their young child. Another couple lives less than 200 yards from the Ringfort site and every time they pass it, they say they feel a mix of heartbreak and anger. Their contracts, you would guess, are legally binding. They have paid deposits and the homes are built, but these families cannot move in.

Even if these families had their deposits returned, they simply can no longer purchase houses at today's prices, which essentially leaves them homeless. One couple stated how ordinary people can do everything right and still lose. They have gone through every proper channel, kept every line of communication open and offered compromise after compromise, and still no progress has been made. The families who signed contracts for these homes are asking for accountability. I first brought this up nearly two and a half years ago. I ask the Minister of State to intervene and contact the Revenue Commissioners and his Department to step in and ensure the homebuyers' contracts are honoured after five years. Will he meet the five families affected as soon as possible? These families are close to losing everything they have worked so hard for. They need help and support from us all, and they need it now.

I thank the Deputy for raising what is a very distressing situation for the homebuyers who entered into contracts and indeed paid significant deposits for the purchase of 16 homes at Ringfort development in Rathmolyon, County Meath. I have read news reports as recently as this morning about this case. My deepest sympathies go out to those families. I understand the frustration they are facing. For many of us, buying a new home is a dream. It is an aspiration for all families. The Government is committed to ensuring such aspirations can be realised. That is why we published the Government housing action plan last week, which commits to delivery of 300,000 homes to the end of 2030, including 90,000 starter home supports.

As I am sure the Deputy will understand, this matter is subject to an ongoing legal process and I understand the developer company is appointing a liquidator. Accordingly, I am constrained in what I can say on the matter. While I certainly share the understandable concerns of the Deputy and the families concerned, there are clear laws of contract and legal frameworks governing the purchase of houses that should be enforced.

I am aware State support has been drawn upon by both the homebuyers and developer concerned. I understand help to buy was used by some of the homebuyers to support the purchase, while the developer drew down loan funding from Home Building Finance Ireland to help finance the development, debt I am given to understand has been repaid. Notwithstanding the State support provided, the matter remains a private contractual and legal one between the homebuyers and the developer in question. Accordingly, it would be inappropriate for me as Minister of State or for the Government to intervene, especially when the appropriate legal processes are under way.

As State support has been drawn down on these houses, I believe the Minister of State can intervene and that we need to intervene. I visited the site in Ringfort last Friday and blocks were being delivered to complete works on the boundary wall. This site is nearly complete, which begs the question why the developer would continue to work on the site if it is going to liquidate it. Yesterday we attended a meeting with the liquidator, the developer and the homebuyers. The homebuyers left the meeting with many question unanswered. The homes they paid deposits on are built, the lights are on but five years after giving deposits, some with the help to buy scheme as the Minister of State said, the doors are still locked for the five families who just want to move into their forever homes. Residents believe this case exposes how existing company and receivership law allows directors to manipulate processes at the expense of ordinary homebuyers. I have seen developments delayed in different towns. Developers are hoping that homebuyers pull out of legally binding contracts so they can get the current market value for houses they are building, which is at an all-time high and increasing. If the price decreased in value, the developer would expect contracts to be honoured. It should be the same the other way around. I ask the Minister of State again to intervene here so these homebuyers can move into their homes. The way they are being treated is appalling. The flaws in Ireland's housing regulation and receivership system are being taken advantage of. I plead with the Minister of State to make the right decision and intervene to protect these five homebuyers and families who remain and want their contracts, legally binding agreements, honoured in the middle of a housing crisis.

As I said in my opening reply, I have great sympathy for those who are trying to purchase homes here and across the country. That is why the Government is putting supports in place like the one the Deputy mentioned, to support homebuyers in purchasing their first home. I would love to be able to solve this matter for the individuals and families in question. As he will appreciate, contractual and legal frameworks govern the purchase of properties and have to be followed. This is a matter in respect of which a legal process is ongoing.

As a result, unfortunately, as Minister of State I am not in a position to be able to intervene. I want these families to be able to be in their homes as much as the Deputy does. From a departmental perspective, we are keeping a close eye on proceedings and what is happening here in this particular instance. Unfortunately, given the state of the circumstances that face us at the moment, it is not appropriate to be able to intervene.

Will the Minister of State meet the families?

Housing Schemes

I raise deeply worrying and entirely unacceptable issues for apartment owners and renters who are experiencing them in my constituency of Dublin South-Central. Let me paint a picture for the Minister of State. When I visited some of these apartment blocks, I saw fire safety hazards and potential for flooding. In another apartment block, I saw water coming into people's homes. This was not from a river. They do not know where this water is coming from. It has dripped into their home so much that it is now forming mould behind cupboards that have to be taken off. It is lifting skirting boards. I have been in their homes, and they invited me in to show me what exactly was going on. They have a wonderful area outside, which could be a communal area, but because it so badly damaged by water and the lack of ability to have any remediation, they are not able to use it. After I visited, a few weeks later, part of that apartment building fell apart. The family who live underneath have twins. They are brand new babies. If it had been warm enough to be out, they could have been sitting out underneath that balcony and they would have been seriously injured or worse.

The difficulty is that they are stuck in a situation where they are not able to get this remediation because they do not seem to be able to do it. They have a sinking fund, which is sinking rapidly into things that should be fixed ordinarily. There are developers that still own parts of those apartments. They are not paying money to the owner management company. There are people who own their apartments and they have spent a lot of money on these apartments. I do not know if the Minister of State knows my constituency, but Dublin 8 is an area where properties are very expensive. These properties were bought at the height of the boom and they were incredibly expensive. They are gorgeous, but people are frightened to live there. They are at their wits' end. One of things that I remember from that meeting was that one couple said they hated to hear the sound of dripping because they knew that was when something was going to go bad. In their minds, they hear drip, drip, drip all the time. They have buckets, pans and pots trying to gather the water, but they are emptying them all the time. It is causing them absolute stress. When I met them, what should have been a wonderful place to live in was an extremely stressful place to live in.

Will the Government deliver a comprehensive and fully funded statutory remediation scheme for apartment owners and renters? According to parliamentary records, legislation to establish an apartments and duplex defects remediation scheme is being drafted. The Government has approved in principle such a scheme with the aim of covering 100% of the eligible remediation costs for purpose-built apartments and duplexes constructed between 1991 and 2013, but the scheme seems to be unimplemented. These people living in these apartments are not able to access this. I am not going to name them because that would not be fair, but I am happy to talk to the Minister of State afterwards and give him the names. It is causing them a huge amount of stress. Will the Government provide a clear and publicly published timeline for when this legislation will be passed, when the scheme will be opened and when affected residents can apply? Will the Minister of State guarantee that as part of that scheme no apartment owner or renter will be forced to shoulder the costs of the defects that they now have by ensuring that remediation costs already incurred or levied will be eligible for refund or support under the legacy defects provisions of the scheme?

I thank the Deputy very much for raising this important matter. It gives me the opportunity to update the House on behalf of the Department of Housing, Local Government and Heritage. The Government fully understands and acknowledges the difficulties that homeowners and residents of many apartments and duplexes are facing and the stress that is caused when defects arise in their properties. The Government is committed to helping those whose lives have been impacted by this issue. As the Deputy is aware and mentioned, the Department is, as a matter of priority, preparing legislation to put in place a statutory remediation scheme for owners of certain apartments affected by fire safety, water ingress and structural defects. This legislation will establish supports for the remediation of these defects in purpose-built apartment buildings, including duplexes, constructed between 1991 and 2013. Given the complexity of the issues, including the significant amount of Exchequer funding that this Government has committed to assisting affected homeowners, sufficient time is required to ensure that the scheme is fit for purpose, provides value for money for taxpayers and contains appropriate oversight and governance measures.

Indeed, good progress has been made with Department officials attending a meeting of the Oireachtas Joint Committee on Housing, Local Government and Heritage yesterday evening to begin the process of pre-legislative scrutiny. Pending the introduction of the statutory scheme, the interim remediation scheme has been established to provide for funding of emergency fire safety defect works to provide an acceptable level of fire safety in buildings until full remedial works can be completed. This scheme, which is being administered by the Housing Agency on a nationwide basis, is open to applications from apartment owner management companies, OMCs, via the Housing Agency's website. Given their status under the Multi-Unit Developments Act 2011 and the key role they play in management of the apartment sector, OMCs have been identified from an early stage as being an essential ingredient to ensuring the efficient and effective delivery of this remediation scheme. The Housing Agency will oversee the process, ensuring OMCs receive the funding necessary to carry out these remedial works. It will work with the companies through the application process. In addition, an effective advice and information service within the agency has been established to provide support for OMCs. In principle, full funding will be provided for all eligible works necessary to achieve an acceptable level of fire safety in each building. To ensure value for money and good governance regarding Exchequer funding, appropriate terms and conditions will apply to such funding, outlined in the grant agreement.

I am happy measures are being put in place and the scheme is coming onstream. However, for these people who are living there, the time is now. How much time does the Government need? When can they access this? The difficulty is the communal areas. If people are not paying in and if everyone is not in the OMC, what seems to be happening is that they are not able to access the remedial fund. When that happens, those areas are not being looked after because there is no one able to do it. What happens then for apartment blocks where the OMC is not as strong as it could be? How will it be supported?

I am concerned about the Minister of State's comment that the Government needs to make sure it is value for taxpayers. These people are taxpayers. I will not outline the total, but one woman has paid in a lot of money to make sure that her home is safe for her children, herself and her husband. The reality is that when these apartments were built, building standards were not upheld. This is a problem of a regulation that was never enforced. We have a number of apartment blocks not only in my constituency but around the country, which now have to be sorted out because there was no enforcement. I do not know how this happened. We are supposed to have regulations for everything, and it seems to not have worked. We have fire regulations, but this water ingress is also happening. The people who live there are taxpayers. They are renters or they own their apartments, and they deserve better. I acknowledge the need for value for money, but there is no value for money for the people who live there. They are seriously stressed. I thank the Minister of State for his response. I will keep pressing on this issue because time is of the essence. People spend a lot of time in their homes. This is totally fixable. If homes are dangerous and if they are stressed in their homes, time is of the essence.

Owners and renters deserve better. There is no question that these properties should not have been built to the standard that they were. They should have been built to a higher standard; that is a given. That is why the Government has committed to putting a significant remediation scheme in place to support the owners and renters in those properties to improve them and bring them up to an acceptable standard.

The Minister, Deputy Browne, has continually met with stakeholders in this area. He is committed to progressing the overall legislation that will provide for this. As I mentioned, officials were before the Oireachtas joint committee recently. We have to get this right, however, and owner management companies are a critical component of this. If we are to invest significant sums of taxpayers' money in remediating these properties, we have to ensure there is effective governance in place in all those complexes. The last thing we want to see is money being poured into something and for it either not to be improved to the level it needs to be or to be misused in some other way. This money, which is taxpayers' money, will be ring-fenced to improve apartments and duplexes that were impacted between 1991 and 2013. The report in 2022 estimated that up to 100,000 units could be impacted, not just in Dublin but right across the country. We therefore have to get this right, and I am sure all Members will contribute to that.

Disability Services

I am standing up here for the people of Louth because my constituents, neighbours and families are being denied essential neuro-rehabilitation services that most other regions have or plan to have. Let us be very blunt about it: Louth has no community neuro-rehabilitation team, CNRT, - not one. That is not because the need is not there; it is because one has not been provided.

The HSE has confirmed to me directly that HSE Dublin and North East which includes Louth, is one of the only regions in the entire country with no operational CNRT and no funded team. That has been written in responses to my parliamentary questions, in black and white, and it has real and devastating consequences for the people of my county.

Let us humanise this because it is not just about a line in the national service plan. Louth has stroke survivors trying to relearn how to walk and speak with no specialist community rehab team to support them. People with acquired brain injuries are being discharged from hospitals straight into a vacuum. Families are caring for loved ones with progressive neurological conditions without any structural follow-up. Patients are travelling across counties or simply giving up because the service or the medical team recommended to them does not exist. We are not talking about a luxury service; we are talking about physiotherapy, occupational therapy, speech and language therapy, psychology and medical rehab oversight. Those are the fundamentals of recovery and these are supports that determine whether persons regain independence or lose it permanently. Right now in Louth, that recovery depends entirely on a person's postcode, a system that is failing us. In reality, for every month Louth patients wait, they lose more function. For every year the team is delayed, more function becomes permanently lost. That cost is inaction, and that is what patients are dealing with.

Meanwhile, other areas, such as Galway, Mayo, Roscommon, Dublin south, Wicklow and Kildare, have received funding for 12 whole-time equivalents and teams are progressing with recruitment. We have been left behind in the north east. The HSE has confirmed year after year that it has submitted estimate bids to fund the CNRTs for the regions with nothing, including mine, and those bids have not been delivered. When I ask through parliamentary questions whether existing neurological services in Louth will be expanded or integrated, the answer is that we have to wait for the national service plan for 2026. When I ask about monitoring this, the reply is "details to follow"; when I ask about staff and recruitment plans, it is "not yet available". There is no timeline, no commitment or no clarity. It is completely unfair to the patients in County Louth and the people of County Louth that they are continuously waiting for this. We cannot leave families continuously waiting while the rest of the country moves on. There is no equity in that system. We cannot pretend that a region of nearly half a million people does not need what the HSE itself describes as essential population-based rehabilitation services.

I ask the Minister for an update on that and I hope there will be urgency on it.

I thank the Deputy for raising this important matter. It gives me an opportunity to respond on behalf of the Minister for Health.

The neuro-rehabilitation strategy implementation framework was launched in February 2019. The overarching aim of the strategy is the development of neuro-rehabilitation services to improve outcomes for people by providing safe, high-quality, person-centred neuro-rehabilitation at the lowest appropriate level of complexity. Services must be integrated across the care pathway and provided as close to home as possible.

Specialist neuro-rehabilitation services being established under the neuro-rehabilitation strategy will provide earlier access to specialist rehabilitation that improves people's outcomes, reducing their neuro-rehabilitation needs, enhancing function and reducing the supports required as they transition back into their communities.

As part of the strategy, the HSE is in the process of expanding the number of community neuro-rehabilitation teams across the country. The current position is that in 2025 four new teams have been recruited and will be operational this year. Some areas have partial teams in place but some areas, including Dublin and the north-east regional health area, have no teams in place currently.

Moving forward with the neuro-rehabilitation strategy, the aim is to enhance the existing CNRTs and fund those areas that do not have a community team to create a large population-based team within each regional health area.

A substantial amount of additional funding was provided for the continued implementation of the neuro-rehabilitation strategy in budget 2026. The details will be set out in the national service plan in 2026, which is due to be published shortly.

I take on board the points the Deputy has raised on behalf of her communities in the north east in relation to the absence of a team in her area. I will take back what she said to the Minister for Health.

It is a pity the Minister is not here this morning because the Minister of State is reading out a response I have received several times to parliamentary questions. I know all this stuff. I also know that Louth does not have a community rehab team. I deal quite regularly with people who have acquired brain injuries, MS, FND or Parkinson's disease and they are not being cared for. The rationale is that they should go to Dublin, but the exhaustion of having to travel to Dublin from north Louth, south Louth or indeed mid-Louth is not acceptable. The stress of that is not good for health outcomes. The Minister of State said that we need to have the best outcomes or care pathways "as close to home as possible". The HSE is not even doing what it is recommending or what it is putting in replies for the Minister of State to say. This is for the Department of Health and the HSE. Again, it is the same answer about the HSE national service plan 2026. The reality is that County Louth has no neuro-rehabilitation teams. I need one, my constituents need one and the patients deserve proper care close to home, exactly what the HSE and the Department of Health clearly state.

The Deputy has articulated very well the importance of this service to her community in Louth and the entire north-east area of the country. There is a commitment in the programme for Government to ensure the continued roll-out of the neuro-rehabilitation strategy, and community teams form a critical element of that. Budget 2026 has invested significant additional moneys in this area. That will have to be reflected in the HSE national service plan. There is a commitment to focus on the areas that do not have a team and to expand the areas that have only partial teams in place.

Again, I will take the points the Deputy raised back to the Minister for Health.

Swimming Pools

We need a full public inquiry into Lucan swimming pool, at least to the point of the termination of the contract of the most recent contractor, McLoughlin.

The history of this pool is an absolute mess. In the 1980s, Lucan Community Council collected moneys for a leisure centre. People paid towards this and were promised a pool in phase 2. Unfortunately, the project went into debt with a bank loan to AIB and had to be bailed out by the council and Lucan leisure centre became owned by South Dublin County Council. People were still asking whether they could have a pool. In 2002, the council said it was sorry but the swimming pool programme was closed and we could not apply. I was a TD at the time. I put in a number of parliamentary questions and was told that we could have still applied. The council made a hames of it for the first time at that time.

Along with my colleague and friend, the late Councillor Fintan McCarthy, I was involved in the swimlucan.com campaign in 2005. We collected over 1,000 postcard petitions and an equal number of emails were sent into South Dublin County Council. Fintan was able to get a commitment from the council that it would add the Lucan swimming pool to its own programme. The response was that while the council was committed to building a pool out of its own funds, it would be remiss not to seek funding elsewhere as well. That was the story. Unfortunately, in 2006, my late friend and colleague died tragically in an accident in China. His vacant seat was taken over by my late father, Billy Gogarty, who subsequently became mayor. He was told during his term as mayor that he would be turning the sod for Lucan swimming pool. This was in 2007. Unfortunately, he died tragically of a brain tumour in 2008. His replacement, Councillor Dorothy Corrigan, in due course asked about the pool. The council stated that there were no plans for a pool at the time. Having given a commitment, they reneged on it after two people involved in the project died under tragic circumstances.

It is no surprise that, in 2014, when I came onto South Dublin County Council again, my first speech in the chamber was about the Lucan swimming pool. This time there were a number of a community individuals, including Helen Farrell and Sandra Whelan, who were interested in doing a campaign on the pool. Along with other councillors, including Liona O'Toole, Guss O'Connell and Francis Timmons, I decided to support their massive campaign to bring it back into the eyesight of the then county manager. After a number of trials and tribulations, we got it into the county development plan and the rolling three-year programme and the council committed €6.2 million towards a pool. This is where it becomes a matter of State interest because €3.8 million of that initial investment came from national sources.

The pool design was passed in 2018 and we were told that construction would commence the following year and it would be completed in 2020-21. Covid hit, obviously, there were supply chain issues and prices went up. At some stage in the period between 2020 and 2022, the council took its eye off the ball. When I was a councillor, I submitted many questions asking when the pool was going to be completed. We were told that it would happen in December 2022, in April 2023, and so on. A new architect was appointed to oversee the project a year and a half ago. That individual deserves a medal because they have been chasing a lost cause. They were trying to keep their finger on the pulse of what was happening with the contractor. The contractor was not allowing any proper oversight until recently. The contract was then terminated. The council said it cannot do a review until the project is finished but I believe a review up to the point of the contractor's termination is absolutely necessary.

I thank Deputy Gogarty for raising this matter, which I am taking on behalf of the Minister, Deputy O'Donovan. Government investment in sport is essential to increase participation levels in all sports across all sectors of society. The allocation for the sports programme in budget 2026 is over €290 million, an increase of just under €60 million or 26% compared to the 2025 allocation. When the national sports policy was published in 2018, it set a commitment to double investment in sport to more than €220 million by 2027. Obviously, we are significantly ahead of that already.

With regard to the development of physical sports infrastructure, the role of the Department of Culture, Communications and Sport is to provide capital funding for such facilities, including swimming pools. The construction and day-to-day operation of swimming pools is a matter for the respective local authority in the first instance. The Department operates two capital funding programmes for sport, namely the community sports facilities fund, CSFF, and the large-scale sport infrastructure fund, LSSIF. Over €250 million was allocated to 3,048 community sports clubs and facilities in 2024 from the 2023 round of the CSFF, representing the largest ever investment in sports facilities in communities across Ireland. The LSSIF was established under the 2018 national sports policy to provide Exchequer support for larger sports facility projects, typically those requiring investments greater than the maximum available under the CSFF. A total of €297 million has been invested through the LSSIF across 68 projects. The 2018 round awarded €124 million to 33 projects, including top-ups in 2023. In November 2024, €173 million was allocated to 35 projects following record demand. An allocation of €28.9 million was made to nine swimming pool projects. In addition, the CSFF has provided allocations in excess of €5 million over the last ten years to swimming projects.

Previously, the local authority swimming pool programme, LASPP, provided grant aid towards the capital costs of new swimming pools or the refurbishment of existing pools. Fifty-two pools have been completed and just one swimming pool project, Lucan, remains in the programme. Lucan swimming pool is currently under construction. I note that South Dublin County Council handed over the dry-side facilities, including the gym, to the appointed operator on 22 July 2025. These facilities were subsequently opened to the public on 28 July 2025. In relation to the funding provided to Lucan swimming pool, the Department, as the Deputy rightly states, provided a grant aid allocation of €3.8 million from the LASPP to South Dublin County Council, which is responsible for delivery of the policy. Formal approval for the grant was provided in 2019. To date, the Department has paid out €3.2 million to South Dublin County Council for the ongoing construction works on Lucan swimming pool. South Dublin County Council has confirmed that the construction programme for Lucan leisure campus was impacted, as the Deputy said, by supply chain issues, Covid and the war in Ukraine. Since then, various other factors have contributed to project delays.

I am informed that South Dublin County Council is actively working to advance the project and ensure delivery of the facility for the people of the area. A tender process for appointing a replacement contractor is complete and a preferred bidder has been identified and notified. This step is critical to progressing the project and completing the remaining works. The newly appointed contractor will assume responsibility for co-ordinating all remaining works which will include finalising the swimming pool element of the development. Following the conclusion of the contractual arrangements, an updated project completion date will be communicated publicly. This will provide clarity and certainty to the community regarding the timeframe for opening the leisure centre and swimming pool complex.

Now that the Minister of State has given the response, I can go into a little more of the nitty-gritty. The Minister of State mentioned the Covid issues and the restrictions on working practices, etc. The council was aware of this from an early stage but it took the word of the contractor. I have had stories told to me about electricians walking off site because they were not getting paid commensurate to the increases in costs. As they are obviously the ones who have to certify the work, this would have caused delays. What we were told by the council which could not be put into the public domain was that while that contract was live, it had to adopt a softly-softly approach because if the council had to re-tender the contract, it would massively increase costs and delay construction of the pool. Three years later, we have seen a massive increase in costs. The original pool was approximately €10 million. It was €13 million at the commencement and now it has gone up to €20 million. We have had an increase in costs that goes way above Covid and supply chain increases.

We have had a time delay that goes way above what it would have taken to get rid of the contractor and act on clauses at a much earlier stage. There has been a massive clamour for proper transparency - as there has been none - from members of the public in Lucan who have been looking for this pool for years. The council has consistently refused to give any sort of information now that the contract is complete from the McLoughlins side on why it held on as long as it did. What were the factors? There could be valid factors. I would like to see them in the public domain. We cannot wait until after the pool is completed. We need this information now because it is a huge waste of public money that we need to investigate. I ask that the State would use its own resources to try and get such an inquiry going.

I thank Deputy Gogarty. It is obviously an exceptionally important project for his area that he has campaigned for over a significant period of time. I acknowledge the people that were previously involved, including his own dad, as he mentioned.

Sport is really important, as are pools. I come from a sporting background myself in that I am a qualified physical education teacher. I understand the importance of having good quality sports infrastructure in all of our communities right across the country.

As I said in my opening statement - it speaks to some of the frustration the Deputy has outlined - of the 52 pool projects under the local authority swimming pool projects, only one of them remains uncompleted, and that is Lucan swimming pool. The positives I take from the response that I have put on the record of the House is that a new contractor has now been appointed in order to complete the works. That is very important.

In terms of swimming more generally, the 2024 to 2027 strategy sets out an important vision in order to try to increase participation and take-up of people in learning what is a very valuable life skill, as close to their communities as possible. The Government will continue to put additional funding behind the swim strategy. Some €1.5 million has been allocated for the period 2025 to 2026. The governing body, Swim Ireland, is currently undertaking an analysis of the overall ownership structure of swimming pools across the country that will feed in to future projects. I assure the Deputy that this is something the Department will keep a close eye on, as we want to see this project completed and the pool opened as quickly as possible.

Health Services Waiting Lists

Recently, Home and Community Care Ireland, HCCI, published its new report and witness for home and community care throughout the State. Home and Community Care Ireland is an umbrella group for home and community care providers across Ireland. Its report is based on the latest available statistics. The report makes for grim reading, with almost 5,000 people currently waiting for home care, but what is of particular concern for me is that my constituency of Clare has a waiting list of 304, which when calculated per 1,000 people of population equates to 2.386 per 1,000 or 157% of the national county average. The lowest waiting list per 1,000 of population is Dublin, with 0.076. County Clare's waiting list is more than 3,000% higher than that.

HCCI has compiled reports on waiting lists for a few years but they were based on the total number of people on the waiting list in each county. Under that measure, Cork had the highest waiting list. This is the first report that calculates the HSE waiting list as a percentage of the population of each county. Since it is the first report of its kind, we cannot even say for sure how long this problem has persisted in County Clare. More importantly, we do not know why the waiting list is so much worse in County Clare, so that is the first question that needs to be answered. What is causing the excessive waiting lists in County Clare? If the Government does not know, what does it intend to do to research the problem and find out its causes?

These 304 are not just numbers. Behind each of them is a person who has been approved by the HSE for home care hours and yet cannot avail of this vital service to keep them in their own home for longer. Without this help, people's health can deteriorate, making them more likely to need hospital care or nursing home care. They may also face difficulties in being discharged because they cannot be sent back to their own home if the home care is not available to them. A spokesperson for HCCI said that they have heard of examples of where people have died while on the waiting list, only for their families to be later offered home care for them. This must be utterly heartbreaking for family members. They must feel like their loved one was completely let down and neglected by the State in their time of need.

The HSE issued a statement to the media in response to the HCCI report. We should not be reliant on the HSE to issue statements in the wake of a report like this about the lack of services that people have to endure to try to find out what is going on. The HSE statement may have been its best guess as to why the people of County Clare have been so neglected but a number of its assertions simply do not add up. It states that the mid-west has an ageing population and that is a contributing factor. However, other counties with higher age profiles have lower waiting lists. The Central Statistics Office gives a ratio for the number of people over 65 years of age to those under 65 in each county. County Leitrim, for example, has an age ratio of 28.4, according to the latest census data compared to a ratio of 25.1 for Clare, yet its waiting list is 1.254 and ours is 2.386. Let me be absolutely clear: the waiting list in Leitrim is far from acceptable. No one should have to wait for the care services they need.

The HSE's statement also implied that County Clare is a rural county but so is County Kerry. It has a waiting list of 0.676 per 100,000 compared to our 2.386, so ours is more than three times the waiting list of Kerry, even though both counties are rural.

The HSE is responsible for managing the waiting lists and for managing decisions to allocate home care to people in the first place, yet it seems it is not able to adequately account for the large difference between the waiting lists in each county. Even if we in County Clare do have a higher ageing population than anywhere else, and even if we have a more dispersed rural population than anywhere else, as the HSE seems to assert, it is still the job of the Government to ensure that Irish citizens have proper, full and prompt access to appropriate home care when they require it. Every Government has had access to census data for years, which was supposed to be used to plan for future needs, so why do we find ourselves in this unacceptable situation?

I thank Deputy McGettigan very much for raising this important matter, to which I am responding on behalf of the Minister for Health. Improving access to home support is a priority for the Government. The overall budget for home support in 2025 is circa €838 million. This is the largest allocation ever for home support. It is an increase of nearly €122 million on the previous year and an increase of over 70% when compared to the 2020 budget of €487 million. We are on track to exceed the target of 24 million home support hours, excluding complex home support, for this year. At the end of September, we delivered 1.3 million more hours than by the end of September 2024. We have already exceeded the year-end target to support over 60,000 people at any one time.

Under budget 2026, the HSE will be funded to increase the target to €26.7 million next year. In the Clare and Limerick integrated healthcare area, at the end of September 2024 the HSE reported that 1.034 million hours of home support had been delivered. This is 2.1% ahead of the target for the year to date, and nearly 48,000 more hours than the number of hours delivered in the same period last year, which is an increase of nearly 5%. However, although supply of home support hours has increased, the waiting list does remain persistent in some parts of the country, including County Clare. The HSE reports that, as of September 2025, the waiting list in County Clare stood at 340 people. Some 93 people are waiting for their home support package to commence, while the other 247 people were waiting for receipt of additional home support hours.

Where there are waiting lists for home support, priority is given to those in the community with acute needs and those assessed and waiting in acute hospitals who are able to return home with support.

Higher waiting lists are known to be directly related to the availability of carers in the region. The Government has recognised the importance of addressing recruitment and retention for the sector and is continuing to work to deliver on the recommendations of the strategic workforce advisory group on home carers and nursing home health care assistants.

The HSE has also reported that it is carrying out regional rolling recruitment campaigns in line with the pay and numbers strategy across the health regions. A number of initiatives are under way to focus on the recruitment and retention of HCAs to provide home support in areas where additional home support staff are required. Additionally, at a national level the HSE has developed a HCA career hub spotlight piece which highlights the role of HCAs who provide home support, the training required and the benefits associated with working for the HSE. It also offers contact details for local home support services as well as information on how to join the career hub to receive job updates.

The Minister of State with responsibility for older people and housing, Deputy O'Donnell, is fully committed to addressing waiting lists for home support, with a focus on those regions that are disproportionately affected. The Minister for Health, Deputy Carroll MacNeill, has specified that home support waiting lists must be addressed through the HSE's upcoming national service plan.

It is a pity the Minister for Health is not here because, unfortunately, the Minister of State has been left to read out a response which indicates that he has not even heard what I have been saying. The answer he has read suggests that the Department has exceeded targets but we are not seeing that in County Clare. The answer does not tell us what we want to hear. While I thank HCCI for this report, which clearly identifies the problem of waiting lists for home care in various counties, we should not have to rely on a report to tell us what we should be informed of by the HSE. It is the responsibility of the Government and the HSE to bring forward solutions for this, but I am not hearing solutions. The Minister of State is saying that there are increases, but they are not being seen in County Clare. These solutions have to be rooted in a clear understanding of the sources of the problems. It is deeply concerning that the HSE cannot clearly identify the causes of the current excessive waiting times in County Clare. The suggestion that County Clare has longer waiting times because it is a rural county does not hold up when other rural counties do not have the same level of waiting lists we have. The idea that it is caused by an ageing population overlooks the fact that other counties with ageing populations have shorter waiting lists than ours. This seems to be another case of postcode lottery in terms of services. We in County Clare have inadequate services and the agencies responsible do not seem to know why.

The people of County Clare have a right to feel abandoned by the Government. The HCCI stated in its report that it relies on parliamentary questions to get access to statistics and data relating to waiting lists. We need to see transparent reporting from the HSE. Will the Government instruct the HSE to compile and report on waiting lists regularly in the same way it reports on other matters? If so, when will it do so? If not, why not? This report should serve as a wake-up call. People are being left to wait and suffer in silence and that is not acceptable. Ours is a modern society in the 21st century. This dereliction of duty by the Government cannot continue. The Government and the HSE need to formulate a plan to introduce protocols for the capturing, analysing and publicising of data related to what is clearly an inadequate home care service.

As I said in my opening statement, budget 2026 will increase the number of hours provided for home support to 26.7 million, which is significantly more than what was provided in 2025. Nonetheless, I acknowledge the points the Deputy has raised. The Minister of State with responsibility for older persons and housing, Deputy O'Donnell, is committed to ensuring that where there are gaps in provision, including in County Clare as the Deputy has pointed out, they will be addressed through the national service plan which the HSE will bring forward. There is no question that areas of rural Ireland should not be disadvantaged in terms of home support - or any other service for that matter - that is provided by the State. Where there are disproportionate waiting lists in certain parts of the country, we are committed to addressing that through the HSE service plan, which the HSE is responsible for bringing forward. It is the Government's responsibility to ensure the funding is put in place and it is the HSE's responsibility to ensure that adequate provision is provided across the country to ensure people can remain in their homes, as is their requirement, and to ensure we free up capacity within acute settings as well. I will take the points the Deputy has made back to the Minister for Health.

I thank the Minister of State and Deputy McGettigan.

Cuireadh an Dáil ar fionraí ar 9.55 a.m. agus cuireadh tús leis arís ar 10.01 a.m.
Sitting suspended at 9.55 a.m. and resumed at 10.01 a.m.
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