I move: "That the Bill be now read a Second Time."
The idea behind the social housing passport is a very simple one. It allows people on local authority housing waiting lists or in receipt of social housing supports like the housing assistance payment, HAP, and the rental accommodation scheme, RAS, to be able to move from one local authority to another and to take their years on the list or on transfer list with them. It was a long-standing commitment of Fine Gael, the Labour Party and, indeed, until recently, the Minister of State's party. Alan Kelly, when he was the Minister for housing back in 2014, included it in his housing plan at the time. Simon Coveney, when he was the Minister for housing in 2016, included a commitment to introduce a social housing passport. In 2016, the Minister of State's party colleague the Minister, Deputy Darragh O'Brien, also made a commitment to introduce a social housing passport in his plan. I was genuinely surprised when that commitment was not repeated in the programme for Government and was not contained in the current housing plan. It is a very simple solution to a very real problem affecting large numbers of people and there simply is no sensible or credible reason not to do it.
The Bill I am introducing with my colleagues here this evening is very simple. It gives the Minister for housing the power to put in place a social housing passport by way of regulations. The fine detail of that would be a matter for the Minister and Government, but the legislation sets out a number of core principles of how the passport would work. First, importantly it would be for both people on the list and people in receipt of social housing support, such as HAP and RAS. It is not just the 61,000 households on our council lists but also the 55,000 or so households in HAP or private sector RAS.
Second, and also important, is that it would not simply allow people to move freely around the country and change housing list. The legislation sets out the minimum criteria against which a tenant would be able to access the passport, for example, if they were able to take up an employment or educational opportunity in another county, if there was a healthcare arrangement involved, if they were fleeing domestic, sexual or gender-based violence, or other exceptional and compassionate grounds. A relatively narrow set of circumstances would allow somebody to apply for it.
I will give a few concrete examples of why this makes eminent sense. Somebody living in Dublin is seven, eight or nine years on a local authority housing list and is in employment, and their employer offers them a job in Cork in the Minister of State's own constituency. This gives them an opportunity to advance economically and they would still be eligible to remain on the local authority housing list in Cork as they would in Dublin. Therefore, because they have a live offer of a job, instead of what we ask them to do now, which is to choose between giving up their many years on the list and giving up the opportunity for employment advancement, they would be able to apply to Cork city or county council, provide the evidence, move onto that list and take their years with them. Therefore, they would not lose the opportunity for their permanent affordable home, nor would they lose the opportunity to advance economically.
There is a particular problem with how this challenge operates in Dublin, because unique to Dublin, we have four local authorities. While you are still only allowed to be on one list, you are allowed to have areas of choice in the other neighbouring local authorities. I am not sure if Cork city and county councils do that; they might be the only other in the State. In Dublin, somebody starts on the Dublin city list but cannot find rental accommodation in the city, so they end up renting in my constituency or Deputy O'Reilly's constituency in south Dublin or Fingal. They could be renting for a long time, and eight, nine, ten or 11 years pass before they approach their eligibility date for a social home. However, their children are all in school and the local clubs. The person may have local employment. They are rooted in the community in south Dublin or Fingal. However, because of the way in which the council lists operate, they will never get a permanent home in that local authority area. Their only option will be to eventually take up an allocation in another part of the city beyond the catchment area of their employment, educational supports, friends and family. They then face a dilemma, because many people do not understand this when they go on the list. They only begin to understand it many years later. They have to decide whether to give up those years and start again on the list in the local authority in which they are living or completely uproot their family to move to another part of the city. That does not make any sense whatsoever.
I understanding that one of the reasons for it no longer being part of the programme for Government housing plan is because there was concern among the County and City Management Association, CCMA, and the local government sector about having too liberal a regime. I fully support that. I do not believe that people should just be able to move around for no reason. There should be very clear, legitimate and sensible reasons, and if the reasons we have set out here are not to the Minister's liking, this allows him to set the regulations in whatever manner he decides.
It is disappointing that the Minister of State has tabled his 12-month amendment. This Bill says to the Minister to go away, do the regulations and consult with his officials, and there is no need to delay that for 12 months. I presume the only reason the amendment is here is so that the Government does not seem to be voting against the Bill. I do not believe anybody could say that it was anything but eminently sensible legislation.
Notwithstanding the fact that the Government is not moving forward with the passport, it gave a commitment last year - something that my colleagues, Deputies Devine and O'Reilly, had been raising regularly - to at least introduce a social housing transfer protocol for women experiencing domestic, sexual or gender-based violence. That was published last weekend, and I welcome it. However, even with that, there is a problem. The way in which the circular is set out, it only applies to households on council lists. That means households in emergency accommodation, living with family or friends, or in the private rental sector receiving rent supplement, because that is not a social housing support. That is only about half the people who might actually need this. By excluding social housing tenants in receipt of HAP or RAS - the approximately 55,000 households that would need this vital and, in some cases, life-saving transfer protocol - they will not be able to access it at all. It is disappointing that, when several journalists have contacted the Government and the Department looking to confirm on the record that HAP and RAS tenants are not included - we know that they are not - and set out why and if that will be reconsidered, instead of giving a straight answer that, yes, they have been excluded, and explaining why or giving a commitment to review and change it as a matter of urgency, there has been an attempt to confuse things, saying that HAP people can move into HAP tenancies in other local authorities. Of course, you can have HAP all over the State, but what you cannot do as a HAP tenant under this transfer protocol is move your HAP transfer list from one local authority to another and take your years on the list with you. You are punished if you try to do so.
The Government has made its position clear. The Minister of State has a well-crafted script from his officials, which is absolutely fine, but I cannot imagine that, knowing the realities of life as he does, being a constituency politician like the rest of us, he does not see the value in this. I make a personal appeal to him that, whatever he says on the floor here today, he use his influence in government if he believes this is a good idea. He might use his influence inside the Department and reopen the conversation with the Minister about a full-fledged social housing passport, as proposed. It is one of those occasions where you might not think it is a huge issue, but it affects thousands of people.
I thank my colleagues, including my constituency colleague Deputy Ward, who is not here today because he had another engagement. He wanted me to put on the record the actual experience of a constituent of his for whom this issue was very pertinent. I will read it into the record, if that is okay with the Minister of State. The woman in question said, "When I registered with [Dublin City Council] I was already staying in Saggart", which as the Minister of State will know, is in South Dublin County Council, "but the sad part is I didn't know I had to register with [South Dublin County Council] and the lady I spoke to at [Dublin City Council] did not redirect me he just registered me." Sonas, which is her domestic violence support organisation, asked her to reach out to Deputy Ward and share her entire story, which is the information I will now outline:
The reason this matter is so important to me is because I am a survivor of domestic abuse. The father of my child subjected me to severe abuse and made threats against my life, including telling me that if he ever found me, he would kill me and dump me in a dumpster. These threats and experiences caused me years of fear and trauma.
For the last number of years, I have finally been able to rebuild some sense of peace and safety in South Dublin [where she lives]. I do not have family in Ireland, and the only support system I have is the community I have built around me here over many years. It has taken a very long time for me to feel safe enough to live without constantly looking over my shoulder.
The thought of being moved to the Northside [to the Dublin city list, which she is on] leaves me extremely vulnerable. I know nobody there, and I fear that I could come into contact with people connected to my abuser, forcing me to relive trauma that I have spent years trying to overcome. I cannot imagine having to start over again [on the south Dublin list] while carrying that fear, not only for myself but also for my child.
Another constituent wrote:
You wouldn't believe how this effects my mental health, I am 16 years on [the Dublin City Council] list only that I am from the DCC area reason why I started my application with them, I moved to Clondalkin when I was pregnant with my daughter who now is 16 years old and we've set roots here, my both children go to the local Irish schools, my daughter is a Ranger in the local girl guides, my son plays GAA for Clondalkin along with other afterschool activities, I am a preschool and afterschool teacher in the Clondalkin area 13 years now. We have solid roots here and became apart of the community. Recently I've being in touch with other local TDs to voice my story and I know I am not the only one.
These are two cases - the case in Saggart and the case in Clondalkin. Neither of these people can access the social housing passport protocol, as the Minister of State has set out.
Both have compelling reasons that they should be able to do so.
I look forward to the Minister of State's speech. I look forward to hearing why he thinks it is sensible to defer giving the Minister the power to set out the regulations as he sees fit. I ask him again to see the sense in this and talk to his colleagues. I am sure his backbenchers have many constituents like ours who see this as a sensible move. It would be one of those rare occasions, if the Minister brought in his own legislation, where this House would be unanimous in saying that the Government is doing some good on housing, and we all support it. I am not precious about the Bill in front of us. I would quite happily withdraw it tomorrow and give all the credit and kudos to the Minister, Deputy Browne, if he wanted to do it himself, because the crucial thing here is that there is a cohort of people who are being treated unfairly by being denied a reasonable chance of progressing in their life because of a very bureaucratic rule. Let us get rid of it. Let us put a social housing passport on the Statute Book and let people get on with their lives in the way that we would all like them to do.